“We just figured that would be a great reference, and we loved that Kirk didn’t remember her,” says Orci. “It’s an in-joke that also speaks volumes about his character when it comes to women. That’s why we used it.”
I HATE THIS KIND OF SHIT FROM THE REBOOT MOVIES, KIRK IS NOT AN OVERSEXED ASSHOLE OKAY WHEN HE MEETS PEOPLE HE CARES ABOUT PEOPLE, TOS KIRK IS A LADY-KILLER YEAH BUT HE GENUINELY ENJOYS THEIR COMPANY AND THINKS ON THEIR TIME TOGETHER FONDLY, KIRK ISN’T A DOUCHEBAG OKAY BOB ORCI GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD
The fact that he forgot A MEMBER OF HIS OWN CREW is just another level to me.
# Can we as the fandom collectively agree that THIS DID NOT ACTUALLY HAPPEN? # Don’t get me wrong. # We all make mistakes when we’re younger and some of us sleep we people we shouldn’t. # But this was a crew member # someone who worked with McCoy # who (we can deduce) applied for a transfer because of the way Kirk treated her. # It’s not funny. # It’s completely out of touch with Roddenberry’s vision for Trek. # Remember what Kirk said in ‘The Naked Time’? # Because I do. # He said to Spock # ’You’re allowed to notice her. The Captain’s not permitted.’ # And I don’t want to hear that AOS Kirk is 1) young and 2) grew up without a father. # This was not not not in the spirit of his character and I refuse to accept that it happened. # rant # star trek into darkness # I forgot how much this movie pissed me off
(tags from museaway)
I’m on board with this idea. I actually just assumed that Chapel was at the academy or something at the time because it didn’t occur to me to think of Kirk fooling around with his crew, but now that it’s been suggested, I’m pissed again. I want to lock Abrams and company into a small room and make them watch the original series. We can even pause after each scene that proves Jim Kirk is not the asshole they want him to be.
McCoy addresses her in STXI (He calls to her off screen, “Nurse Chapel”) so I have always assumed she’s the same age and probably served with them, hence the line about her being “much happier” on the other ship. I forget its name. I hate this movie.
Everyone has made such great points regarding these characters and how they are portrayed and I agree completely. So I’d like to take a moment and talk about the actors.
In the first movie the film makers chose to honor the original cast members that had passed - DeForest Kelley, aka Leonard McCoy and James Doohan aka Montgomery Scott.
They did this with James Doohan’s son dressed as an engineer and having a cameo with the ‘new’ Scotty, and by hiring Karl Urban to play McCoy. (if you think his portrayal of McCoy was anything but a love letter to Deforest and McCoy, you are wrong. Leonard Nimoy says so) Both Karl and Simon have spoken very positively and graciously about their predecessors.
Majel Barrett-Roddenberry, the actress that played Christine Chapel died prior to the release of the reboot, but after it had been filmed. Because of the timing I was ok with her not being recognized or honored the way DeForest Kelley and James Doohan had. There was always the next movie right?
This is how they choose to ‘honor’ Majel Barrett-Roddenberry.
And this is not an attempt to take anything away from DeForest Kelley and James Doohan, or to down play their contributions to their iconic roles. They each played their character over many, many years and over several series- in TOS, TAS, movies and each had an episode of ST:TNG. But I would just like to point out a few things about Majel Barrett-Roddenberry.
Copy/pasted from memory alpha:
Barrett was the only performer to have had a role on all of the Star Trek series – usually not as a character but as the voice of the various computers used throughout the series. She also supplied the voice of the Enterprise computer in five of the Star Trek films- spanning all three film series (Original Series, The Next Generation Series, and the Alternate Reality Series).
Her most frequent portrayal in Star Trek, besides the computer, was that of Nurse (later Doctor) Christine Chapel on Star Trek: The Original Series, Star Trek: The Animated Series, and in two of the films. She also voiced M’Ress and several other characters on The Animated Series and later played Betazoid Ambassador Lwaxana Troi on Star Trek: The Next Generation and Star Trek: Deep Space Nine. Her first filmed appearance was in Star Trek: The Original Series pilot episode “The Cage” as Number One.
So to sum up:
Series that she performed in: every fucking one
Characters she played:
- Only the voice of every federation Computer (that’s all…)
- Number One
- Christine Chapel
- Lwaxana Troi (daughter of the Fifth House of Betazed, the Holder of the Sacred Chalice of Rixx, and Heir to the Holy Rings of Betazed)
And the best (only) way they could think to honor Majel was this.
Really? This is the best they could do?
Fuck them for ‘honoring’ “The First Lady of Star Trek” like this.
This scene made me so angry because not only was Majel’s career impacted by sexism when NBC execs in the 60’s decided that having a female first officer on a starship 300 years in the future would be utterly ridiculous, and was instead only allowed to play a female character in one of the very few acceptable female professions in the 1960’s as a nurse. But even worse, in the reboot, her character doesn’t even get to appear on screen because of sexism. Total bullshit from Orci, and a refutation of Star Trek’s image as progressive and ground-breaking media.